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		By: Negotiate Like a Pro--The Negotiation &#124; Writers In The Storm		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Negotiate Like a Pro--The Negotiation &#124; Writers In The Storm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2015 11:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] The last post took a look at how to create a pre-negotiation plan. [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The last post took a look at how to create a pre-negotiation plan. [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Fae Rowen		</title>
		<link>https://writersinthestormblog.com/2015/07/negotiate-like-a-pro-part-2/#comment-88571</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fae Rowen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2015 08:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for these steps, Susan. It&#039;s comforting to know that, when the time comes, I&#039;ve got your tips to help me make informed decisions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for these steps, Susan. It's comforting to know that, when the time comes, I've got your tips to help me make informed decisions.</p>
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		By: Susan Spann		</title>
		<link>https://writersinthestormblog.com/2015/07/negotiate-like-a-pro-part-2/#comment-88514</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Spann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2015 20:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://writersinthestormblog.com/2015/07/negotiate-like-a-pro-part-2/#comment-88478&quot;&gt;allybroadfield&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for sharing your experience, Ally. I&#039;m glad you got the non-competition clause narrowed. That&#039;s often an overly-broad provision in standard contracts, and many publishers will narrow it if asked. You&#039;re absolutely right that &quot;the worst they can say is no&quot; - and at least if you ask you learn which areas are and are not negotiable. Many people find that there&#039;s more wiggle room than they think!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://writersinthestormblog.com/2015/07/negotiate-like-a-pro-part-2/#comment-88478">allybroadfield</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing your experience, Ally. I'm glad you got the non-competition clause narrowed. That's often an overly-broad provision in standard contracts, and many publishers will narrow it if asked. You're absolutely right that "the worst they can say is no" - and at least if you ask you learn which areas are and are not negotiable. Many people find that there's more wiggle room than they think!</p>
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		By: Susan Spann		</title>
		<link>https://writersinthestormblog.com/2015/07/negotiate-like-a-pro-part-2/#comment-88511</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Spann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2015 20:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://writersinthestormblog.com/2015/07/negotiate-like-a-pro-part-2/#comment-88466&quot;&gt;densielwebb&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s true that the answer is usually different in magazine freelance work, though many publishers do make changes, if requested in the right areas. You&#039;re absolutely right that the major provisions rarely see changes--but even that is starting to change as the publishing climate shifts. You probably still won&#039;t see changes in magazine and Internet/web work, though--I represent a number of those types of publishers and you&#039;re right that for article-based work, the contract is usually fairly static. (Mainly due to the business models--they can&#039;t look up individual contracts before licensing rights, etc.) You do make an important point about relative negotiating strength, though--the author is definitely on the low end of the totem pole, which is why the preparation and knowing what industry-standards are is so important.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://writersinthestormblog.com/2015/07/negotiate-like-a-pro-part-2/#comment-88466">densielwebb</a>.</p>
<p>It's true that the answer is usually different in magazine freelance work, though many publishers do make changes, if requested in the right areas. You're absolutely right that the major provisions rarely see changes--but even that is starting to change as the publishing climate shifts. You probably still won't see changes in magazine and Internet/web work, though--I represent a number of those types of publishers and you're right that for article-based work, the contract is usually fairly static. (Mainly due to the business models--they can't look up individual contracts before licensing rights, etc.) You do make an important point about relative negotiating strength, though--the author is definitely on the low end of the totem pole, which is why the preparation and knowing what industry-standards are is so important.</p>
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		By: Susan Spann		</title>
		<link>https://writersinthestormblog.com/2015/07/negotiate-like-a-pro-part-2/#comment-88508</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Susan Spann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2015 20:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://writersinthestormblog.com/2015/07/negotiate-like-a-pro-part-2/#comment-88457&quot;&gt;Laura Drake&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Laura! It&#039;s definitely been a successful strategy for me over the years. I&#039;m glad to have the chance to share it here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://writersinthestormblog.com/2015/07/negotiate-like-a-pro-part-2/#comment-88457">Laura Drake</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Laura! It's definitely been a successful strategy for me over the years. I'm glad to have the chance to share it here.</p>
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		By: Laura Drake		</title>
		<link>https://writersinthestormblog.com/2015/07/negotiate-like-a-pro-part-2/#comment-88484</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura Drake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2015 13:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://writersinthestormblog.com/2015/07/negotiate-like-a-pro-part-2/#comment-88466&quot;&gt;densielwebb&lt;/a&gt;.

Densie, I probably shouldn&#039;t say anything, because I&#039;ve never been a freelancer - but i know my agent got my NY publisher to give on several key points I wouldnt even have thought to ask about, and that allowed me to sell a series to a second publisher. IMHO, an agent is worth every penny you pay them!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://writersinthestormblog.com/2015/07/negotiate-like-a-pro-part-2/#comment-88466">densielwebb</a>.</p>
<p>Densie, I probably shouldn't say anything, because I've never been a freelancer - but i know my agent got my NY publisher to give on several key points I wouldnt even have thought to ask about, and that allowed me to sell a series to a second publisher. IMHO, an agent is worth every penny you pay them!</p>
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		By: allybroadfield		</title>
		<link>https://writersinthestormblog.com/2015/07/negotiate-like-a-pro-part-2/#comment-88478</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2015 13:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you for this excellent series, Susan. I was successful in negotiating a few contract changes with a small children&#039;s publisher recently for a short story in an anthology. I changed the Non-Compete clause because the language was very broad, and also asked for minor changes to the Indemnification Clause and Term of Agreement. Disclaimer - I&#039;m married to an Intellectual Property attorney. He is not a publishing lawyer, but at least knows the contract terminology. So it&#039;s definitely worth asking. The worst they can do is say no. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for this excellent series, Susan. I was successful in negotiating a few contract changes with a small children's publisher recently for a short story in an anthology. I changed the Non-Compete clause because the language was very broad, and also asked for minor changes to the Indemnification Clause and Term of Agreement. Disclaimer - I'm married to an Intellectual Property attorney. He is not a publishing lawyer, but at least knows the contract terminology. So it's definitely worth asking. The worst they can do is say no. 🙂</p>
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		By: densielwebb		</title>
		<link>https://writersinthestormblog.com/2015/07/negotiate-like-a-pro-part-2/#comment-88466</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[densielwebb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2015 11:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While this is advice that we should all aspire to, I have to play devil&#039;s advocate here and say that I&#039;ve been a freelance writer/editor for over 25 years and I think I can count on one hand the number of times I&#039;ve been successful at getting changes made to a contract. I&#039;ve worked for magazines, newsletters, newspapers, publishers, book packagers, etc. Maybe I haven&#039;t been assertive enough, maybe my services have not been valued enough to be in a strong position to negotiate, but the response I typically get is, &quot;Sorry. That&#039;s our standard contract.&quot; Just don&#039;t want writers to get the impression that it&#039;s a matter of &quot;ask and ye shall receive.&quot; On the other hand, if you don&#039;t ask, the answer is always no. :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While this is advice that we should all aspire to, I have to play devil's advocate here and say that I've been a freelance writer/editor for over 25 years and I think I can count on one hand the number of times I've been successful at getting changes made to a contract. I've worked for magazines, newsletters, newspapers, publishers, book packagers, etc. Maybe I haven't been assertive enough, maybe my services have not been valued enough to be in a strong position to negotiate, but the response I typically get is, "Sorry. That's our standard contract." Just don't want writers to get the impression that it's a matter of "ask and ye shall receive." On the other hand, if you don't ask, the answer is always no. 🙂</p>
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		By: Laura Drake		</title>
		<link>https://writersinthestormblog.com/2015/07/negotiate-like-a-pro-part-2/#comment-88457</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura Drake]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2015 11:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Love this series, Susan. It makes you think about negotiation from a different perspective - and you&#039;re much more likely to get what you want if you go in knowing what the OTHER party wants!  Brilliant.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love this series, Susan. It makes you think about negotiation from a different perspective - and you're much more likely to get what you want if you go in knowing what the OTHER party wants!  Brilliant.</p>
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